Beware of “Israeli” door-to-door art scams!

March 2nd, 2009

If you recently bought art from a charismatic art student selling his wares door-to-door, chances are you have been duped into buying a worthless piece that is mass produced in China.

A handsome young man with a French accent recently paid my parents a visit in Western Sydney, claiming to be an Israeli art student from the University of Jerusalem. He was carrying a portfolio which he said contained the work of he and his fellow students. Despite the work being unremarkable, my parents – always eager to support the arts – were willing to part with $120.00 for an oil painting depicting two boats docked against a wooden pier.

“These sell in galleries for $1,500” he said cheerfully. While this shyster was still in my parents’ living room, I was summoned to offer my opinion of the work.

The ‘art student’ presented me with some of the pieces in his portfolio – a tree, some generic abstracts, a scene of the Eiffel Tower. Each of the artworks had an associated back story – the tree was apparently a ‘burning bush’, representing the first time God communicated with Moses. The oil painting of the two boats symbolised the hope of peace between Israel and Palestine. They were just boats. I immediately recalled a story a colleague had shared only weeks earlier, who knew someone who fell for a similar scam. In his case, the ‘art student’ was a French man named Pierre, and the victim only discovered afterwards that the art was mass produced in Chinese sweatshops for $3 apiece.

“I don’t like any of them.” I said, before retreating. I quickly Googled ‘Israeli art scam’ and was presented with plenty of accounts of similar stories. Luckily I was able to tell my mother in time – so she wrote out a cheque instead of paying cash. As soon as this trickster left, she contacted the bank and cancelled the cheque.

These people are conducting fraudulent business – they sell cheap Chinese rip-offs to people who believe they are supporting art students. Anyone is at risk of falling prey to these swindlers, including the elderly and the vulnerable.

It’s time to close the door on these art scams!

Related Links

Israeli art student scam in Melbourne?
Chinese Oil Paintings for Wholesale
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  1. Jermey.P says:

    Thats outrageous, how can these people get away with such things?

  2. locky says:

    This happened to friend of mine only a few weeks ago, yet the person said they were french. The Israeli accent can easily be confused with a french accent.
    Sadly they werent as lucky and paid for some art with cash, before they found out they had been scammed!

  3. misspigelle says:

    I have come across this scam before as well. but they do send around such dish frenchraeli boys… its hard not to believe their hard luck stories and be swept up in the romance of the struggling artist narrative. bloody scammers, they know their market. Beware housewives everywhere!

  4. scotty says:

    I came across this scam whilst travelling over nine years ago in Melbourne. Several fellow travellers were suckered in to selling these door to door on the promise of making a quick buck. I declined the offer.
    A few years later in the UK a ‘French’ art student knocked on my door selling almost identicle paintings.

  5. klaus says:

    Scotty, wow, thats a long time for something like this to keep going on, with the same paintings no less.. sacre bluerrrgh!

  6. naive says:

    I felt for it. I bought a painting for $170 luckily I issues a cheque but my husband suspected that it was a scam and checked the internet and found this web site and the story Sy Roberts has is alomost the same as mine. Only difference is mine was a Isralie student going door to door in the ACT. I called the bank and stopped the cheque.

  7. Gregory says:

    I just had this young chap at my front door! He said he was a French art student and he was selling his own work but I wasn’t impressed by the quality. The quick look I got before I sent him on his way made me suspect they were mass produced prints rather than originals.

  8. Gregory says:

    PS: I’m in Perth, so they’re obviously scoring enough wins that they can afford to travel. Or maybe they’re just staying ahead one step ahead of the law…

  9. Robert says:

    I’m in Toronto Canada and I just spent half an hour looking at cheap oil paintings presented at my door by a charming Isreali art student. For a mere $210 I could have bought one of his masterpieces. I guess this scam is global.

  10. Tom says:

    I’m in Perth. My wife and I just had this french guy (supposedly an art student) at the front door trying to flog these paintings for $300…he said he can lower it to $200 not more.
    I got to admit, he was very polite and quite convincing. My wife almost fell for it and she would have if she had the cash in hand. But I was very suspicious, right from the start. I never trust strangers selling things door-to-door like this.
    Like the saying goes “if it’s too good to be true…” you know the rest….

  11. Missy says:

    They don’t only hit the cities – I purchased a ‘wonderful, one off masterpiece’ for the bargain rice of $180 in country Victoria in 2004. The ‘poor Israeli artist’ that I bought it from was interesting & lovely, even if a scammer and I do still like my painting so I really can’t complain. Seriously – if someone purchased one of these paintings in the hope that they were ‘investing’ in art and would then make money or even have something of value then they deserve to be scammed. Art should be enjoyed and only purchased because you like the piece and can take something from it – the decision was obviously made at the point of purchase that it was worth that much money otherwise all these people would have said No thanks and would have sent the ‘students’ on their way.

  12. Kim says:

    I just got scammed for $250 by a handsome french “artist”.. I like the ‘painting’ but am now a little annoyed that it’s not even a painting just a cheap print.. Brisbane Australia..

  13. Leon says:

    They are currnetly in our area (West Melbourne Australia). Only last night we had a visit from a young Israeli lady. Same story but no sale.

  14. Adrian says:

    Yeah… Was just visited by “Leon” a foreign guy who was representing a bunch of international artists who were tired of paying massive commisions to the galleries. Luckliy I checked with my wife who had heard something about it on the radio. Told him we weren’t in a position to buy any and off he went… Jumped on Google and this is what I found. Some nice looking pics though… Would be dissapointed however if I thought I was buying an “Original” only to discover it was some mass-produced crap… He certainly had his spiel well rehearsed though… Am glad I’m not into dudes as I can see how some people would go for it.

    Be warned…

    North Brisbane…

  15. Matthijs says:

    I just had a guy from Brasil, in Holland! Luckily internet once told me that you shouldn’t trust things like this… So fortunately I didn’t…

    So Holland, be aware!

  16. Sarah says:

    They’re also in the Hamilton/Stoney Creek, Ontario area-beware of the burgundy van selling “original art”???

  17. roy says:

    well, basicly if any one wants to have an oil painting he would have to go to the art gallery, where you pay alllllot more money, and you cant try it on your walls. they go all day long with a heavy folder, never mind if rain or sun, and prezenting the paintings to whom is willing to have a look. if you like the art you buy, if yiu donr you dont buy, end of story. they are doing us a favor… and their prices are reasonble!!

  18. Tom b says:

    Hey last night i had a middle eastern bloke come to my door with paintings claiming he was french selling them from his peers (students). I told him to come back tomorrow because my mrs would be home. Sure enough He came back tonight but this time his team leader came aswell.. Fed me so much lies I was still in my army uniform and he was saying he respecected pople in the army even though they were lying to our faces!! lucky enough we didnt have enough money at the time so we said we could pay next week on thursday. They said that was fine and left the 5 paintings here It was only because my mrs and i were arguing weather or not they were just printed (i was saying printed.. lol) Jummed on google all I saw was SCAM, SCAM ,SCAM.. They are still coming next week. what to do what to do.. Immigration? Customer protection? Police? Intimedation.. who knows??

    selling to me $70 a painting first night mentioned $150..

  19. Tom b says:

    melbourne

  20. BB says:

    They just paid me a visit in Edmonton AB, last night

  21. DL says:

    I am in Stony Plain, Alberta and they paid me a visit.offering 13 layers of oil painting I just chumped it up to a door to door sales and told him no thankyou after he asked for 120-300 dollars for it and I offered him 15 bucks he should have taken the 15 he would have been up 12 dollars.

  22. Merlin says:

    Just had a visit of a -indeed- charming young Israeli chap. He informed me he was on some kind of international mission (also refering to Australia and New Zealand) to sell art. His story wasn’t convincing though and as door-to-door sales are quite uncommon and generally illegal in the Netherlands (small town of Deventer) I kindly refused his offer. Curious though, I immediately hit the internet and came accross this website. Djeez.. what is this, just a student’s way of making some money whilst travelling or is there more to it?? Anyway, in Holland you also need to be aware of this kind of scam!

  23. Tineke says:

    I’m in Holland and I had this happen to me tonight, however it was a young woman from Isreal that attempted to flog her goods off on me.

  24. iris says:

    Two young men came to our door this past weekend. They gave a detailed anecdote of the image, the art technique, and the artisit (fellow student). They walked all though our house and help up their unremarkable oil paintings to the walls. If you try to bargain with them they will say these prices are set by their art instructor/supervisor. BEWARE! Don’t even let them in the house…it makes it harder to say no to them, and they become more aggressive once you show even a little interest.

  25. jacky says:

    i had a guy named bror at the doors also told us that he was an israeli art student. i live in a little town in holland so we where really suprised by this visit. he told us that he was from an art school in isreal and that he was a second year student and that he was selling the paintings of his felllow graduate students. he told a hole story about the organisation where he was working for the purpose of this organisation was to get the painitings to the public instead of expensive art galaries. after listening to him telling a back story to all the paintings for 20 minutes i became really interested in this one painting he told us (me and my mum) that it was 100 euro but i told him i couldn’t afford that because i’m a student and all so he did some more talking and talk to his teamleader as he called it and he could lower the price with 25 and after some strugle we got it for 70 euro. i was really happy with it because i was just looking for a painting to put on my wall but the next morning i did start some googling because my dad had a bad feeling and i stubled on this scam. now i am fimalier with scamming and we always say dont buy at the door but he was so convincing he didnt hassitate once we asked all the questions to check it out but he did it very well. so be very aware of these people they know excectly what they are doing once they come at the door you have to get away from it right away cause the more you listen the more you get pulled in and start believing.

  26. david says:

    Same thing in Puyallup, WA, USA. Very attractive young lady trying to sell the prints. I suspected from the beginning, I have a fake oil like print from IKEA of all places. At least Then I knew what I was buying. I did however keep checking out the fake prints, and her. After all they both looked great and both were fake.. To bad. Did I mention that she was very attractive.

  27. klaus says:

    Nice work David :)

  28. french atractive lady says:

    all america made in china
    even the people
    what are you complain about??
    if you like it you take it
    if not tell them to go

  29. cakes says:

    We complain because they are sold under false pretenses!!!

  30. Ozymandias says:

    The biggest company behind these door-to-door sales persons is the London based ‘Art4all’.
    The company is owned by Moshe Daniel and has the same address as another company from Moshe; Europe Logistika ltd.

    Art4all:

    Atlas Business Centre, unit 13
    Oxgate Lane
    NW2 7HJ, London, UK

    If you use the Whois database you will find the personal telephone number from Moshe as he is the registrant of his ‘Europe Logistika’ website.

    art4all.eu

    Whois database:
    http://www2.whois.eu/whois/GetDomainStatus.htm

    Moshe Daniel ‘Europe logistika’ website:
    http://www.eulogistika.eu

    Art4all has a service desk and it might be a way to try first.
    The have a 7 days full refund thing going.

    Selling under false pretenses, illegal venting are reasons enough to go to your local police and file a complaint.
    Only by that way can these people be stopped.
    I suggest filing a complaint about the company as well as they are behind these scams and illegal door venting.

  31. Gord Keystane says:

    Sounds like Steve is trying to make peace with his purchases.

  32. Robert says:

    Today, we had a female israelian student at our door in Middelburg, the Netherlands. A nice girl, age about 20-25 years. We let her in and she told us about the group of 72 international artstudents who came to a number of cities in the Netherlands (staying there till about september 15th). She also mentioned the name “art 4 all”, which mission is to bring art closer to people she said. Many similarities with the stories on this website. Paintings were all made by fellow students from all over the world. All of the 20 paintings she had with here can be found at http://www.art4all.eu. She presented them as ‘originals’. Prices asked were between 80 and 120 euro’s. She hereself studied interior design and paints for a hobby. None of the student had paintings made by themselfs with them she said, because ‘if people didn’t like them, it would by to offensive for the student. Paintings were nice and prices are reasonable, but now we’ve read this website, we’re less positive about this sympathetic israelian girl.

  33. Peter says:

    From Hamiton, Ontario. I did buy some of there paintings over a couple years. I like them. If you don’t like them, don’t buy them. Haggle with them, I did. Got some nice pieces.

  34. becky says:

    He is in Miranda (Sydney) tonight.
    All the decriptions of the scam were spot on. The guy was very charming, and the paintings were all eye-catching. Thinking about getting some from the Chinese site!

  35. dave says:

    Hey i know the prints you are on about! either prints messed up slightly to look like originals i dont know. they sell them in camden and spitalfields market they destroy all other stalls with original stuff, nd despite being UNSPEAKABLY UGILY people wan them, its not ripping someone off if they want the crappy piece (which most people do) then they will buy, its pretentious to say you want it then oh no you dont like the exact same picture cuz i found out there are copies !! it makes no scence appart from pretensiousness, PEOPLE DO LIKE CRAP its funny when they realize someone else thinks its crap they get angry hahahaha stupid morons

  36. jarrod says:

    As of the 22nd of August they are still in Sydney. Buyer beware we realise now what a scam this is and so is the picture framer who is part of the scam as well. They are very polite and personable but also very pushy and its easier to get rid of a mormon convention out of your home then these people.

  37. Wattle Grove says:

    They were in the Wattle Grove area of Sydney today. So obviously scammers, their whole speech was very coreographed.

  38. Mark says:

    I got two nice paintings for $355 (they only came down $20) in Townsville, QLD.
    The two Israeli guys were apparently part of a group of international art students who sell each other’s work and do study abroad.
    I found it very interesting, but thought it odd that they didn’t have any card or documentation as I wanted to read about the program and the artists. I was told a framer would contact me in a few days, but haven’t received a call. I got one of the guy’s phone number, but rang it tonight and it was not him :).
    I really like the paintings/prints and will get them framed/stretched and put up on the walls.

  39. Anders says:

    Just had an israeli guy on my door selling art, supposedly from http://www.art4all.eu (at least that’s what it said on the box he carried the paintings in). Same deal described by others here, I let him in and he used a good 15 minutes showing the 20 or so paintings, held them up against the wall and such. Liked two of them, but didn’t buy any and the wifey wasn’t very happy I had let a stranger in the house. Btw, I’m in Norway, just outside Oslo, so they act global.

  40. Krystyna says:

    This happened to me and my parents last week. My parents almost NEVER open the door to strangers, but this guy looked well put together and quite handsome. I was surprised that they even let him in to show us where he thought paintings would look great. Even when my parents said that they probably wouldn’t buy any, he said he wanted them to just see them for an opinion. He mentioned that he was a student and these paintings were being sold on behalf of the University. We pointed out that many were reproductions, and he seemed to be honest that some were. One abstract oil painting, he claimed to have painted himself, and offered it up for 170$. It was his ‘baby’. My mom is always eager to support students, so she offered him 150$ for it, and after hesitating for maybe a second, he agreed to the offer. =\ After handing over a cheque, my mom asked which University he was from, and he said he couldnt remember! he asked if he could call a friend! He had told us he had been studying Architecture and gave us the name of an Architecture and Design University in Israel.

    He asked for our phone number, she gave it to him reluctantly, and a few days later we got a call from a guy who wanted to give us a great offer to frame the painting. But, after a few minutes of the young man leaving, she had started to suspect being duped, so said no to the offer of having to framed.

    Now the painting will probably end up in the garbage because of what it’s now associated with…

  41. Krystyna says:

    Oh, by the way, this was in the Greater Vancouver Area of British Columbia Canada.

  42. Pascal from Belgium says:

    I bought 4 paintings from an Isareli guy presenting himself as ‘Alex Makarov’ from the organisation ‘art4life”, part of’art4all’. I like the paintings very much. I admit I was also very suspicious because after I bought the paintings and did some googling I found allegations of all this being a scam. I visited various art experts though and they all confirm that these are genuinely hand-made oil paintings made by acryl paint on canvas. You can even still smell the paint as if it was fresh. Indeed, people refer to various Chinese websites where you can find the very same paintings for 6 USD a piece, but these Chinese companies make prints instead of paintings; they are the ones to blame, not art4all. Seriously, do you really expect to buy a hand-made oil painting on canvas for 6 USD? These people put a lot of effort in their work. If they ring at my door again I won’t hesitate a single moment to let them in and I would recommended their work to anyone around the world.
    Anyway, to conclude: there’s only one rule of thumb: do you really like the paintings badly enough to pay what they ask? Once framed these paintings can easily last for 30 years.

  43. Glenn McDoogle says:

    Pascal/Alex from Art4all or Belgium,

    Yes, We expect paintings made exactly the same way (paint on canvas) for such prices, because that is exactly what is happening, they have factories where artists/art students paint replicas in china for peanuts, which are then resold for ridiculous amounts by these sorts of scallywags under false pretenses.

    It is an insult to real hard working artists and also these people who are forced to paint these awful copies in poor working conditions.

  44. Pascal says:

    Well, while I’m against bad working conditions and art copies it’s worth remembering that not all reproduction companies are bad. Let’s not demonize an entire industry because of the actions of only some of the companies. There are many of these producers in Eastern Europe, too, by the way. This is just another industry and if the works are original and don’t infringe on anyone else’s copyright I don’t see why people should be denied a living wage. A living wage in some countries is vastly different to what someone in Western Europe would find acceptable. (Although we have quite enough people living in poverty here as well)

  45. Jimminy Cricket says:

    Pascal,

    I think your argument falls flat on many grounds.

    1. These people are lied to in order to get them to buy the artworks, which I would hazard a guess is a crime in 98% of countries.
    2. The people selling the art are not even artists, they are holiday makers and the like who are making money for some unscrupilous third party.
    3. If you are mass purchasing artworks that are mass produced for $5 a pop, then you are not against poor working conditions, you are helping create them and keep them alive.

    The sooner we see the end of this type rubbish the better.

  46. Pascal says:

    Jimminy, lost of products that you used yesterday, use today and will use tomorrow come from cheap laboutr countries such as China.
    Are you boycotting Wal-Mart, Disney and Nike for shifting their manufacturing to China?
    Will you stop bying Apple hardware because it’s made in China?
    I agree however that this doesn’t justify people not being paid what they deserve. Of course you will have people on varied salaries, but there needs to be a minimum which is fair and practical, in that people and their families can live properly on it. Work conditions also need to be of an acceptable standard. The onus is on the Chinese government to start change.

  47. Jager says:

    I have to agree with Pascal. Most of what you use and purchase today is being transferred through so many hands that by the time it gets to the consumer hands, the original price goes up by thousands percents. Choose an item in your house and check online for its price in china and you will see that the paintings are exactly the same deal!!! only difference is that the money is going to people that are willing to walk door-to-door and sell it!! did anyone here tried this selling method? I would love to hear what you think.
    I think it is WRONG that they are lying!! they should tell where the art ism from because the same art cost in galleries around the Western world for more then triple the amount!! this is a win-win situation for the buyers and the sellers!!

  48. Jimminy Cricket says:

    Pascal,
    Yes, i Boycott all of those brands, just like i boycott buying sh*thouse art from liars who go door to door.

    The money isnt going to the people walking door to door, they are getting peanuts compared to the people who run the companies.

    Like i said, its a crime in 98% of countries to sell under false pretences.
    AND they are selling RUBBISH.

  49. Boldred says:

    I’m in the Brighton area, England, and got scammed last night. I say scammed because had a wanted to buy a repo oil painting then I may have considered it, however to me, one of the thrilling things about buying art is that you are buying something someone created. This maybe pretentious, but I own other art where I have met the artist, chatted about their work, and there is an intimacy with the painting (which is in the mind but isn’t all perception!).

    There is a romance in a young student selling his art, but I realise now this is better done at the college degree shows than on your door step.

    Anyway this morning I cancelled the £100 cheque, and will have the painting ready for them to collect (if they do so).

    Don’t get me wrong, the painting was nice (we wouldn’t have paid otherwise) but my emotional response to looking at it now isn’t worth keeping it, and regardless of how good it is, whether it is original or not, art is about your emotional response.

    Will wait to see if they come back!

  50. Newcastle says:

    Newcastle, NSW, Australia
    They are everywhere. I had a young man come around last night at 7:00pm. My wife looked through the paintings for approximately 15 minutes (and that signals bad news for my wallet).
    She called me out and the young man introduced himself as an artist from Russia selling art works completed by him and other struggling artist. I asked if they were originals and he said they were. He even told me how many layers each one was and where each artist was from. I asked which ones were his, and he told me it would be biased to disclose this.
    My wife had selected 4 paintings for $95, $105, $135 and $145. Total $480. I asked him if he would take $300 for the 4 and without pausing said yes. I paid by cheque!!!
    After he left I Googled ‘door to door art’ and found many forums such as this. I contacted the local police who mentioned that the sellers are being investigated by Crime Stoppers and themselves for fraud and unlicensed selling, In Australia there must be a contract when selling door-to-door and a 10 day cooling off period. I quickly cancelled my cheque. And will return the paintings to the man if/when he returns.
    Don’t get me wrong, my wife loves the paintings but it was the blatant lies and the scheming done by these people that changed my mind about giving them money. I did a search this morning and found all 4 paintings online; 2 from Mexico and 2 from china. Even with posting it is cheaper. And paid with PayPal so guaranteed to be what I paid for i.e. beautiful oil painting REPRODUCTIONS.

  51. antoinette says:

    The scam has hit a tiny town in Belgium called Achel.
    We had an Israli young good looking girl at our door too tryig to sell art. I didnt let her in although she was really pushing to come in anyway. My neighbour however did let her in and sold a picture. Luckily she checked out the website and ran outside to catch the girl and asked for her money back which she did get. Surely these art students would go to big towns and not to tiny little towns to sell their stuff (if it’s real and unique). What a waste of time for everyone to have to put up with these people. V

    Very annoying !

    Regards, Ant

  52. antoinette says:

    P.S. she wasn’t able to present a student card which is also already strange …

  53. Luc says:

    …and today they are in Veerle-Laakdal ( belgium). Same story, same scam. We are happy we only bought a small painting.
    We found out about this scam a bit too late.
    Lesson learned. Ugly thiefs with nice and friendly faces!

  54. Kevin says:

    In the late 1970’s, there was a rather large man named Malcolm McCarthy who ran a shadowy art door-to-door selling business out of a house in Cremorne Street Richmond. The place was near the intersection of Swan Street and next to a brothel. McCarthy lived in Glen Iris. He instructed his door-to-door salesmen to say the paintings were originals by a West Australian artist named Neil Jamieson, but in fact they were mass produced somewhere in Asia. The same paintings were sold over and over again and the naive salesmen blitzed certain suburbs in groups at night. The paintings sold for $55 or $75 each depending on the size; a lot of money in those days. It was discovered the paint used was in cheap (house?) oil paint, painted on cheap canvas. This scam went on for a few years. There are probably thousands of these paintings on homes of unsuspecting buyers. I should know – I was one of the salesmen and to this day I am ashamed of having ripped off my fellow man and inadvertently telling lies to people. I ended up quitting in disgust. It was a dark time in my past and a black mark on me.

    I would be interested if anyone knows any more about what happened to the business (it was relocated to upmarket South Yarra in a bid to get new recruits), and what became of McCarthy. I am also interested to know if there ever was a famous Australian artist named Neil Jamieson, and if there is anyone out there who bought these paintings. I can still remember the paintings, 30 years on.

    Since those days when I was a unsuspecting scam merchant 32 years ago I have been very cautious of scammers and door-to-door salesmen except maybe the Salvos, and even then I am wary. Moreover I hate people invading my privacy just as I did to others in the late 1970’s.

  55. Kevin says:

    I should add the actual year I sold the scam paintings was 1977.

  56. Ryan says:

    Well, these fools have made it to Austin, TX area now. An Israeli gal knocked on my door late last night. I didn’t buy anything and then was sent this link by a neighbor today. Phew.

  57. Kim says:

    To the people to “buy” the paintings and then cancel the check after the seller leaves – sounds like YOU’RE the scammers. You got your art for free.

  58. cakes says:

    Kim, we didn’t get free art, we got free garbage. So we threw it in the bin, where garbage belongs!

  59. Jim Osmard says:

    This whole thread is just a racist attack against israel and its people. Its aim is to marganalise support for Israel in the west.

    you should all be ashamed of yourselves

  60. lucia says:

    I don’t think the fact that these people mention they are israelis has anything to do with racism… they could say they are French…

  61. Sammy says:

    We just had a girl show up here with the whole struggling student sob story…
    very pushy and didn’t want to leave without at least an opinion from us ***hahaha***
    we enjoyed our afternoon coffee listening(and giggling) to the morons next door tell her how much they liked all the pretty colours***HAHAHHAA***

  62. frumiousb says:

    I briefly worked for a company that worked this way– in 1989 as a desperate student in London. They were a big company– lots of money and had started in Australia originally. They hired desperate foreigners and we were supposed to say that the work was by friends of ours. It turned out that I was pretty bad at selling bad art. Strange to read that they (or someone just like them) are still going strong.

  63. The trusting family says:

    The lovely French guy was in our Perth home last night around dinner time. I should have told him to go away but he was so polite. He talked about the pieces he’d painted and we took a liking to a couple of Paris paintings. He wanted $250 each and finally sold it to us for $200 each. Trustingly we bought two paintings. After reading this website, I believe we should always trust our first instinct as it’s usually right. My dad did say that we bought the paintings for the paintings not because the French guy painted it. Hope that helps others who are also trusting like us.

  64. joelz says:

    same… in Perth. My partner and I found out his name and what Backpackers he and his partner in crime have been staying. His name is Vincent Brissaud! Beware Perth people! Aurthorities are useless in chasing this gut up.

  65. craig says:

    In Kalgoorlie, and it was a swede. Unfortunately his phone rang and the van driver was down the road waiting for him to finish the sale. Students don’t usually gather in vans and ‘canvas’ whole suburbs.. so we moved him on.

  66. Nat says:

    We live in Hornsby Heights, Sydney. Thankyou Daisy (if that is your real name?) and her ‘team leader’ for scamming us. We are not usually that gullable but it was late on Saturday night and we were tired. $600 later… I don’t care where you come from, I don’t back pack in other countries scamming it’s citizens. What awful guests you are. Your visas should be revoked!!!

  67. Nearly Done says:

    Yep, Jerome from Paris just hit Brisbane 4073. Said paintings “took him about 14 hours to do!”. Wow, the descriptions of “I started painting that one to classical music & ended with jazz”, “I lived with a Moroccan family & painted this on” – hilarious now, only beacuse we weren’t taken but how can anyone stand there soo straight faced & lie to one’s face is something I will NEVER understand…

  68. Richard says:

    Just been visited in Western Sydney home. Same speil. Who brings them out to the Suburbs? There has to be a middle man telling them where to go.

  69. May says:

    To Nat (three posts ago) i live in Westleigh and we were also visited by ‘Daisy’- I was going to try and give her a call tomorrow to rectify the problem. I was wondering if you had tried this (or perhaps the number she has left with us is fake?)

  70. Ripped Off says:

    The Israli scammer ‘schlomy’ is now in New Zealand – knocking on the doors of suburban Wellington. So annoyed that we were roped into the story of the struggling international students – oh well, at least the painting is inoffensive.

  71. Dawn in Perth says:

    This evening I just narrowly avoided paying installments on a painting of Paris, Eiffel tower (black & white/grey with a red tree). His name was ‘Uri’, a very pleasant guy who was very keen to come back later to get his sale. I got suspicious when I asked to knock-down the price from $180 to $150 and his banter on the phone to his supervisor was tell-tale ‘…yes, yes I know it’s money to help us students, but these people have a young family….’ blah-blah. I did like the painting but don’t like to be scammed!!! >:(

  72. Stu in Wellington says:

    Same story here in Wellington, NZ… Leon, an Israeli “art student” actually sold me the Eiffel Tower with red tree, as well as one of Santorini – both for $400. Later, I googled and found lots of similar stories. Maybe not a “scam” but a bit of a rip-off. Seems to be a way of lots of young people finance their travels without needing to get a work permit.

  73. Ripped Off says:

    What annoys me is that the Police say it’s legal. That may be true (and in hindsight I feel like a complete tool), but this scam needs to be headlined in the papers so that others are aware of it. A quick chat with colleagues revealed that at least 3 others have been approached by the same guy in the past month.

  74. May says:

    It is not legal. It is an offence to misrepresent a product or use deception to make a sale, which is precisely what has been done to you. Further, the law- at least in nsw- allows you 5 days to change your mind regarding door to door sales. When i called the police they were sympathetic and took my report but admitted no detectives were looking into the case so my story was just kind of added to a pile of stories :(

  75. Jabba says:

    Yeah, they were doing the rounds in Kellyville tonight, I bought 2 for $300… trying to stop the payment now over the internet… I just didn’t feel comfortable… also the guy was quite sneaky taking a look at the property… quite dodgey… I’d be concerned about these guys also scouting the area for opportunities to steal

  76. Gordon says:

    My mother and grandmother fell for a similar scam in Brisbane more than 15 years ago. It still bugs me (hence why I googled this forum) as I was there but too young and innocent to know better!
    They guy was Indian and sweet-talked my anglo-indian grandmother into parting with hundreds of dollars from her tiny savings.
    Probably different people, but the same scam. I think they had a 60 Minutes report on it years ago.

  77. French artist says:

    I manage this job… If u like it, take it. If u don’t like it.. we leave. That’s just the way it is. We are not pushing u. What if we come and say :”hi, here is some chinese paintings, would u like to give us your opinion, and buy it for 250$?” no way. that’s quit the same when u go to buy some nike shoes… u know it and buy it anyway… just take it easy and… les bobos, les bobos !! ;op

  78. Pete says:

    We got ripped off last night. Still kicking ourselves, all in all the girl (French, supposedly) did a good job of fooling us. We bought one painting for $250. We feel stupid and violated. I’ve reported it to the police but there’s not a lot they can do. I’m now on a mission to ‘out’ these crooks and make sure they meet what’s coming to them.

  79. Jeremy from Paris says:

    Just had “Jeremy” from “Paris” at our door (Wembley, Perth) with the same schtick.
    Charming, attractive, puppy dog eyes. Had a look at his stuff, some interesting abstracts and a whole lotta crap.
    Offered him $100 for one once I had checked out his studios website for bona fides, which he refused.
    I think they’re concentrating their efforts on folks like me who haven’t got their spouses a Xmas present yet….

  80. real world says:

    An man and lady came around bella vista in NSW today and did the same thing. Same story as above from the girl abt heading towards New Zealand after Australia. Both had tanned skins, and had a very well prepared speech abt each piece of art they are selling. We forgot the name of the girl but the guy claimed to be Ron and we’ve gotten his mobile number too. I guess most people didn’t feel good paying $100 or sometimes more for a piece of mass produced art and knowing that the cost was much much less.

    We’re all swarmed with replicas, reproductions, fakes from overseas markets (NOT just this art) and many of us are not aware of how cheap it is to buy it from China, India etc. Increasingly more things we consume nowadays have been produced in one way or another in low-cost countries. Where there’s buyers in the market for these items, there will be sellers.

    If you like it, buy them for a price you feel willing to pay for it. If you have been deceived to believe these are real, you prob learn from this experience to be more cautious in the future. Unless these people are up to no good, getting into your place to check out what you own and robbing it after, i wouldn’t really be concerned. These people are all over your neighbourhood in any case, and everyone will recognise their faces if something bad were to come outta this.

  81. James says:

    Yep… Got sucked in myself tonight by a French Student. I then got a little suspicious and googled mass produced oil reproductions and found the exact same pictureon a aout 4 websites one of them art4all.eu. Paid by cash cheque so will ring the bank to cancel!

  82. Matt says:

    James look like i got done by the same guy in Hawthorn tonight.

  83. James says:

    I’m in Hawthorn also said he was going to Sydney tomorrow… I wonder why!

  84. Nat from Perth says:

    This is also happening around Perth. Very similar scenario to the above, albeit ‘French’ student just came to my door and showed me his portfolio and offering to sell paintings for $250!

  85. Daniel says:

    I just had a young attractive women claiming to be an Israeli art student knock on my door and go through a whole portfolio of art said to be done by other students. She had a thick French accent, blue eyes and blonde hair. So I doubt she was Israeli.

    She said she is selling them at 10% of the price they would get at an art gallary.

    I am in Western Sydney, near Parramatta

  86. mike jones says:

    Daniel, The fact that she had a “french” accent means quite certainly she was Israeli, it is very easy to confuse the french and israeli accents if you havent heard many israelis speak.

    Hopefully you didnt get stung!

  87. Jane Smity says:

    Residents of Southern River Perth beware. There is an Israeli girl by the name of Ronny with her partner in crime – a supposde supervisor named Josh doing their rounds. Ronny knocked on my door last Friday with a portfolio of paintings. I liked a few and asked her to return on Sunday so my husband could see them. We agreed to purchase two with a small one thrown in for free for $950/-. Fortunately for us our internet was not connected, so I told them I would do a bank transfer from work the next day. Some sixth sense drove me to google the internet, and it was with a sense of deja vu that I began reading similar experiences of other people. I called Ronny today and told her we had the artwork checked and was advised they were not worth the money and wanted to return same. She said she would pick up same after checking with her supervisor and I’m still waiting for her to pick up same.

  88. Mieke says:

    We had an Israelian guy over this afternoon.. We were really happy with the painting we got and since we were looking for a new painting in our living room we looked, liked and bought one. We’re still happy with it! But it feels kinda weird that on the internet everyone is like Beware! Don’t buy it! That just gives a bad swing to the whole story!

  89. Jim says:

    We bought a couple of paintings from one of these “scammers”, but we paid very little, and are happy with what we got. It’s all a matter of perspective I guess. I really don’t like buying limited edition prints, which to my thinking are simply good quality posters.

  90. Ange says:

    I had a supposed young French student come to my house in Brisbane and show me his artwork however he just asked for my opinion. He claimed that a bunch of students were wanting to put on an exhibition. He didn’t try to sell me one at all (which is what I was expecting). I told him I was a student so maybe he felt bad about that?

  91. Wade says:

    I had this smoking hot girl come to the house last night trying to sell oil paintings. Her story was that she with 4 other artiest trying to work up enough cash to support a store front downtown in Austin, TX. The painting weren’t bad, but they were not of Bob Ross quality. So I declined to buy any. They here in south Texas ya all! lol

  92. Mikkel says:

    Just had two Israeli design students selling oil paintings visiting. I did find some paintings I liked, and we were working out the particulars. They made me a special offer, around 50% off list price, but as I had to pay online up front, I thought I’d google first, buy later. I would settle for ONE positive review, but couldn’t find one. So I told them that my google results looked bad for them, and kindly asked them to leave, which they did. Just an after thought -a bit suspicious that one of them didn’t know the rule of thirds in composition, being a “design student” and all.
    Denmark

  93. Franklin says:

    Franklin, Canberra, Australia. Got ripped off yesterday. 3 ripoffs for 250. I realised they were cons after they left. They claimed to be art students but never even looked at all the paintings on my walls. Generally I’m suspicious, but hey who doesn’t want to help a ‘few poor arts students’. Anyway will tell police and have a bonfire.

  94. Leigh says:

    I just had a visit from one of these guys and googled it straight away… The artwork looks amazing and he even let me touch the artwork to feel the texture etc. He told me each painting was created by different art students around the world. He then asked if i wanted to buy one and said they are all $150. I said i don’t have any cash on me and prefer to buy online and asked if there was a website i could visit. He said the company is very new so the only way to contact is through email or mobile phone. I live south of Sydney by the way.

  95. MB says:

    These dodgy ‘French Art Students’ are doing the rounds at The Gap in Brisbane at the moment. Twice in two days, and same time last year. I don’t even bother opening the door to them anymore.

  96. KS says:

    seems they are out and about in Brisbane..I had a ‘french’ girl student last night trying to sell paintings for $250 each and my son had a young guy turn up at his place. Clayfield area at present.

  97. ran says:

    i think that this art work this guys are selling is very nice. the are trying to make a couple of dallers.

  98. Baker Cake says:

    the art is nice?
    Are you the biggest fool on the planet or do you work for these slimey bastards?

    get a real job.

  99. lauren says:

    Don’t buy the oil painting!!!!!!!
    Jus’t Don’t!
    they’re all fake!
    Don’t open your wollet so fast!!!

  100. Israeli girl says:

    Hi
    I got here by accidents, it’s quite sad to see and read what young Israelies do around the world. This is by now quite common here for young people do go work in these art scams jobs, it’s a way to make easy money and there are special companies recruting people who want to make money fast and travel. They are not art students and the paintings are bought cheap from China, these are just young people tring to get money fast; after the military service here this is what some people do…
    I’m sorry for the bad repuitation I makes us have around the world, if it’s legal the best thing to do is to spread the word and not buy.

  101. Uk bloke says:

    Looks like this scam has reached the United Kingdom. I live in the city of Bristol in United Kingdom and have been duped into buying 3 paintings and 3 frames paid about £450 UK pounds. One of them is the painting of two boats next to a pier described in the above article. Two so called Israeli art students claiming to be doing a international student arts program selling original oil paintings. One of them was a girl called Elizabeth (very attractive slim with dark hair and chiselled facial features). The other, a man (handsome dark hair and dark skin, slim build). They were very polite and always claimed to be offering large discounts compared to gallery prices. I felt sorry for them, students trawling the cold streets late in the evening trying to make some money. I wanted to own some original art so thought it was a bargain. I still like the paintings but are dissapointed that they are hundreds of copies made from China in sweat shops.

  102. Justin says:

    I live in a suburb of Dallas, Texas and was visited by a young attractive girl who called herself Maria. She said she was a artist from Russia who was selling her paintings and her friends. They all ranged from 160 to 180 dollars. We considered buying one (I don’t know anything about art …..) but then she turned very pushy about coming in my house claiming that she was also a interior design student. She was also very persistent on getting her hands on a check for payment. She even said I could date the check 3 or 4 weeks out. My quess is she was trying to get the check for fraud purposes and I have no idea why she wanted in my house. I politly told here that we did not want the paintings and that I didn’t feel like putting my 2 huge pitbulls outside so she could come in….lol

  103. Jenny says:

    I knew I had to be gullible!!! I am in Melbourne and a very charming “french’ art student was doing the sales pitch. The pictures aren’t bad really $250 a pop though which seems crazy now that I have found an exact copy of one linked from this site. He left 3 paintings and I gave him $150 deposit..supposedly to pay $550 cash when he comes back tomorrow evening but I think I’ll just show him the web link and suggest, he can either leave all 3 for what I’ve paid (reasonable in my opinion because I like them) or give me my money back. My guess is, annoying as it is to be duped into spending more on something than it may be worth, and being told a very fabulous pitch, the main thing is its about sales and we’ve all bought stuff at highly inflated prices before. I guess the main crime is that the people in china producing the pictures are not getting anywhere near the street sale value in this scheme, but if we all took a highly ethical view of consumerism we wouldn’t buy anything because the reality is that so much of what we buy is produced in similar conditions around the world in developing countries.
    Can I just say though that I know a lot of Israelis and do find it offensive that they are being type cast here as the only people involved or capable of such a sales scam as this is clearly not the case..

  104. Jeff B says:

    Jenny, in reference to the typecasting, I think its because 90% of the people who are doing the door to door are israelies pretending they are french. It would be ridiculous to suggest every israeli is like this, but the ones who go door to door are.

  105. Max P says:

    I live in Green Valley in Western Sydney and had a pretty Israeli girl give me the same spiel as everyone else…10% off the usual price, helping art students around the world, etc. After showing me the portfolio and having a story behind many of the paintings, she started off by asking $160, but soon said it was negoatiable. When I told her I didn’t have much cash, she said I could also pay by cash cheque. I offered $50 and we eventually came to a price of $90, after she rang her supervisor to see if he/she would acdept the deal. I paid $50 cash and the remainder a cash cheque. I did like the painting but was a bit suss when she kept asking to come inside to give me her opinion as to where the painting would look good. She also took down my number so someone could call me to frame the print. As soon as she left I did a Google search on art scams and came across this thread, then immediately called my bank to cancel the cash cheque. I then drove around the local streets and found the same girl outside another house nearby. I told her I’d been on the internet and knew the paintings were not authentic so demanded my money and cheque back in return for the painting, to which she obliged. As I was driving off she was on her mobile phone straight away, to her supervisor I assume, and no doubt was organising her getaway. I did ring the local police and they said they’d send someone to investigate but I’m not holding my breath. These people are very professional and believable and I’m sure there is a middle man somewhere dropping the students off in the suburbs, as I know that public transport in this area is bus only and not very frequent on weekends. I’m glad I was able to get my money back and hope that these people are caught for misleading the public. And like other comments made, I’ve got nothing against Israelis but it does seem to be a common theme that Israelis seem to be involved in the scam more often than not. Anyway, please be aware and let your friends and family know what is happening.

  106. annoyed says:

    A girl calling herself Et is doing Mt Annan NSW right now. Funny she says she’s from Isareal but sounds like she is french – and did the “i don’t speak good english spiel”, very pushy and annoying. Look out Mount Annan!

  107. Janni R says:

    I live in Whangarei New Zealand …Tonight I had a nice looking guy who claimed he was the painter of his paintings knock on my door at 7.30pm he said he was from Argentina but sounded French said he had just arrived a few hours ago in the town had been selling in Auckland…The paintings were nice but have seen these types of paintings before, they look like they come from China and are mass produced…He showed me all of them but I told him no thanks..When I asked about framing he told me he had a friend who could do the frames at a greatly reduced price..As he showed me the paintings he had there was one that he said had been set aside for a neighbour who he claimed had bought one which is a good trick…I just don’t like the dishonestly and deception being used…

  108. Michael says:

    I live in Morningside in Brisbane Australia and tonight we had a visit from a young French guy carrying paintings. He arrived when I had visitors so I quickly told him no and shut the door.

    I had this a few years ago at my old place…all of a sudden one night I opened the garage door to go out at 9pm and there was this guy standing there with paintings. I said no I am busy and when I came back an hour later I saw him hop into a van down the street.

  109. Ben says:

    I was visited by a gorgeous Israeli girl at the end of last year, she showed all of the paintings discussed in earlier replies and they were all very below average. She looked stunning in her dress, continually bending over to sort through her portfolio, (I kept my eyes on the paintings). At the end of her pitch, I declined on the paintings and she walked up the street, made a call and was picked up by a van shortly after. I like the theory that their all Mossad agents in training, honing their skills of persuasion and home infiltration, casing out Australia one house at a time.

  110. Barry says:

    I bought three paintings of an Israeli guy on the Gold Coast who was very pleasant. The art looked very good (most of it). A Greek landscape and a paired modern set. For about $110 each I can’t go wrong. All I wanted is something nice on the wall and I can do that for the price I paid – I’m chuffed!

  111. Jeff B says:

    Barry,

    It seems you went very very wrong, paying any more than $5 is a crime.

    I think Ben has it spot on.

  112. Samantha M says:

    I paid $290 for my melboune cup painting and regardless where they came from and which nationality painted them , It was an awesome painting and I am happy with my purchase.of course many might said we got scammed , but who didn’t ??? iIts will be worthless t o me even if I buy Mona Lisa Original because I didn’t like it at all……
    Does not matter who they are. They just wanted some pocket money , just like everyone of us. This is human nature.

  113. Aliea says:

    I couldnt disagree with your more Samantha, and I am glad you paid $290 for a painting that cost maybe 50cents to make. Well done

  114. Chris says:

    It seems these scum bags are travelling around campbelltown. Had the “French Student” who said he was Polish but originally from Israel at my door tonight. I have seen all of the paintings he offered me anout 10 years ago when i worked at a bottle shop they came and tried flogging the same thing. He looked stunned when i told him id seen all of them before. Told him the truth, i hate art, and i am undischarged bankrupt, and my uni student wife and 2 kids get all my money before some rip off mercvhant does

  115. Graham - Surrey, UK says:

    Same story here. Girl called Joly called on Sun eve claiming to represent a company called Art4all.eu with an office in London. Also said was part Israeli nationality. Had similar paintings for sale, including black & white one of Paris with a red tree . We purchased 2 for £255 – an abstract one of the Manhattan skyline and the other a modern art abstract. The artists were claimed to be Wilkinson & Rrichardson. However, having found this site and seen other references to a painting scam on Google, we’ve just stopped the cheques. At least we have the paintings and i don’t expect her to return for her money.

  116. Paul says:

    They’re here in Padstow, Sydney, right now. Again. Phoned Police (again) who know nothing about it (again), even though I made statement a year ago to 2 officers. They will do nothing. (Last time they came 3 hours later, and said they needed to get here sooner to catch them. I can only try.)

  117. Very interesting to read all your comments.
    I have a question for you? how much do you think it cost to manufacture your shoes? and your clothes? what about the food you buy?
    ill tell you! it cost very little in compare to what you paid!
    face it this is how the world works: you buy low and sell high.
    and when you buy an oil painting at the door you get a good product for a good price so stop whining because everybody goes home happy.
    think about that next time someone knocks on your door..

    and don’t forget the painting looks great on your wall.

  118. craig says:

    That’s all very good and well, oil paintings saleswoman, but why not be upfront about this to begin with? That’s the issue here – sales under false pretences.

  119. Sal says:

    They have been scouting the Inner West in the last few weeks. We were visited last week by a lovely Enlgishman claiming to be selling the paintings of his fellow artists for them. He claimed it was a 2 weeks project whereby artists got together to paint pieces for sale. He called at the very inconvenient time of 5pm for us but we were looking for some art to hang on the walls so we took a look and decided on 3 pieces. He charged us $300 + for hte paintings but we didn’t have casj luckily so paid him a cash cheque which after a web search we promptly cancelled and we are yet to hear from the “framer” that was supposed tp call us on Sunday. We like the pieces so will hang them up as planned.
    I don’t have anything against these guys per se as people are free to sell their wares door to door if they eish. It is the misrepresentation that I object to. Luckily we didn’t pay them cash and even if we had it wasn’t huge amounts of cash we parted with but I do feel for those who lost money and were taken for fools. It has taught me a lesson and I will be extremely wary of anything sold door to door in the future.
    I assume the Inner West of Sydney will be off the radar for a while but be aware, I’m sure they’ll be back.

  120. well craig thats a very good question. when i present the paintings i never say that i made them my self, or that i know who made them as a matter of fact i try to be as honest as possible. but like anything that you want to sell. you need to make it sounds better and more beautifull. especially when trying to sell door to door.
    but in the end of the day what is important is that you get a REAL oil painting and not a print like some suspect you can check it by yourself. and it’s something you like and it fit to your house and you paid a good price for it .
    so you have nothing to feel bad about because you did made a good deal.
    Its only a matter of perspective.

  121. Well craig thats a very good question.
    Oil painting is a product that we are trying to sell and like anything for sale you need to market your product and present it in an attractive way.
    the paintings are REAL oil paintings and not a print like some suspect you can just check this for yourself.
    The bottum line is: you paid a good price for a good product that you loved and looks good in your house, you made a good deal.
    and you shouldnt feel bad about it take it in the right perspective.

  122. Peter says:

    @ oil painting saleswoman:
    The issue isn’t the paintings being sold using lies, or sold for 1000% more than its really worth.
    There is one thing you should know about Australians. We are tough and rough, but we are also honest, giving and respect each other as best we can. When we have a person that lies to us about the origin of a sentimental product such as a painting, it really is sad to us and we feel sorry for you. We feel for you poor salespeople because we know that your boss put you up to this and made it seem easy to earn a quick buck. Your boss is riding and counting on the good nature of the people of Australia and the reason why you are getting sales is because we know you guys are doing it for cash, whether it’s a lie or not. We feel sorry for you to tell you the truth and some are angry at you for not being smarter!

    Loss of money means nothing to most of us in Australia, we are tough as rocks, but to Israeli’s I guess money is more important than their own dignity and respect to other people. It’s very very disappointing because most of you art salespeople are young, beautiful and intelligent people that could do better rather than defacing yourselves and the people of your country.

    If you told the truth on my doorstep and said that these paintings are chinese hand painted works and I’m a tourist or student which is raising money for a trip in Australia, I would definitely buy your artwork. You would find that people would be willing to do the same also.

    Therefore it’s not about the product you guys sell, it’s about YOU GUYS! We hate seeing nice young people being used for some stupid money making scheme that your boss set up. I bet inside, it makes you feel terrible, but it doesn’t have to be this way. There are so many good people here in Australia, your lies will get the better of you in the end.

    I hope those that are employed by these greedy heartless bosses stand up against them. Australian’s are not “Goyim” because they are caring and giving! Australians are not stupid, dumb or gullible! Most of us would break an arm to just to save you from death.

  123. Ellie says:

    Interesting to read this – I just had one of these guys at my door in Edinburgh, Scotland – I guess it’s because the Edinburgh festival is on. I agree, if the guy had been straight about the paintings he was selling rather than spinning a bogus story (that it is part of a project for Glasgow School of Art – as if they would get students to produce and sell these mass market paintings!) then I would be able to take it or leave it as I pleased, but he blatantly lied and that is very annoying. Anyway I was pretty sure was a scam but thought I would google and check – the description matches the top post here, right down to the French sounding accent! I worry for the more vulnerable people he will be targetting (he knocked on my door pretty late in the evening). These guys could easily apply to set up a pitch here in Edinburgh and do some honest selling, some of the paintings were pretty good! There is no need for such dishonesty.

  124. Jase says:

    Just had my visit as well. pretty girl, said she was from that art institute in Isreal yada yada. I am a major Isreal sympathiser too, so I had a big conversation with her about the whole mid-east deal, and how the world is notrecognizing the difference between the Isreal objective and the Arab objective (Jewish extinction basically). Weird thing though… she didn’t seem comfortable with her skin type, and kept saying she was darker than all her friends there and was teased etc… it was odd. I didn’t buy anything cause I’m pretty broke right now, but I would have because she was awesome. Then I read these forums etc and felt stupid ;). I also found the prints online at some Chinese website. Very dissapointed with her. Here’s the ting though, and it’s just a possibility here. I’m in the U.S.. I read some big article about there being a link between these door to door Isrealis and terrorist cell locations. That made me laugh at first because no Jews would EVER help them for any reason. I also though it weird that Isreali’s… our huge allies whom we give our soldiers lives for, would be targeting us in mass ( I mean by the droves they are being caught over here) for scamming us after lying to us silly. Doesn’t seem right or make sense to me. BUT… then i thought… what if they ARE connected to the cell locations as the rediculous news article suggested, but because they are actually Islamic arabs?? What better way to get some scam money from your enemy#2 for your own purposes, and when it all falls apart finally, your enemy#1 looks like a bunch of scamming sleeze bags with no integrity. Hmmm… just say’n here… maybe that’s the link. Who knows. My mind is still spinning from the fact she lied like that to me and my son and wife. I really liker her alot too. I may just be reacting. But it does link the wierd articles, and at least it makes some sense rather than none at all.

  125. Jase says:

    Sorry about the massive spelling errors…. using my phone.

  126. Jase says:

    And yes… lord have mercy… I know I mispelled Israeli 50 thousand times lol ;).

  127. David Goldberg says:

    Jase,
    Take your ignorant and racist views with you and dont shut the door on the way out, we will barracade it.

    good bye.

  128. Dan Bekkering says:

    I am a seller of these paintings too and the story that the people who visit you tell that they make the paintings themselves is just a white lie to make it more romantic for their customers to buy the paintings.

    For the money you still get a fairly good piece of art to hang upon your wall. “Scam” is a to big word for it, it is true that there are more than one of the same painting and that you buy a reproduction, but what do you want for 120 dollars, a Van Gogh?

    My experience is that if you tell your customers that there are more than one of the same painting they want to buy from you, that they are reproductions, people still buy them because they like them and they fit in their home interior.

  129. Saldanha says:

    I agree with you Peter. I’m in Melbourne and People are selling here too. It’s not specifically “Israeli” it could be any nationality, preferable European. Two things:
    1 – It’s a scam and people are trying to get the most out of it before is too late. (and spreading the word is the only way to end this unfair business faster).
    2 – I would hate to be fooled like this and every person that I know would hate just the same. So please, FOR THOSE WHO SAYS THERE’S NOTHING WRONG, I have something to sell to you too here’s “I love you guys” – That’s what I want you to see but what I just sold to you guys is this “FUCK YOU!” .I bet you didn’t like this, did you? Let’s wake up people, don’t be careless, THINK about the consequences of your actions.

  130. Student says:

    Hi everyone,

    I’m a student at UTS (Sydney) and I’m doing some research on these door-to-door ‘art scams’. If anyone has bought one of these pieces, or knows someone who has, I’d love to have a chat about it.
    Also, it would be really great to speak to anyone who sells, or has sold paintings door-to-door in the past.

    My email is gmackenziee@gmail.com

    Cheers!

  131. Art Lover says:

    I myself sold art, door to door.
    I have to say that it is a controversial subject indeed.
    At first I was quite repelled by the stories I’ve heard about people lying and saying they painted the art and so forth. I decided to give it an honest try.
    I’ve sold these beautiful paintings for 2 months. I haven’t used a single lie in any sale, and I was the top seller in my team.
    These paintings are amazing. They were indeed painted by hand as far as my untrained eye can tell, since I see 2 of the same painting and they are quite different from one another.
    Almost every product we buy today is made in China and these aren’t so very different. Do you know for how much the factory in China sells your Nike shoes? No more than a few Dollars probably.
    Furthermore, every product in the world today has mark-up. That means that the prices go up from the factory till they reach the client and that’s exactly how it should work. The product we provide is of top quality, brought to the customers door so he can try it in his house, framed for him within the week in the convenience of his house, and handed to him on a silver plate. Just show me another company that provides people with that service, and still keeps the costs lower than any painting you can find in galleries today at that level and quality.
    We, the students and young people who sell it, work very hard day after day to provide this service and we earn an honest living. We are also taught and trained to be polite and nice since we are invading the people’s private space and sanctuary and we treat them with the utmost respect. Someone who is rude, too pushy or aggressive in his sales will quickly be off the team.
    In any profession you will have dishonesty, lies and deceivers. Especially sales is a tricky business. Even the simplest salesman in any clothing store will show you the “nice side of the truth” so to speak. Does that make it the “great clothing stores scam”?
    The bottom line is that we provide an amazing product, at low cost, to your doorstep, work very hard for the customers to find something that they love, and change the misconception today that art should be only in museums and galleries. Please forgive the ones that don’t believe in the product enough that they feel they must lie and deceive. I try to stop that phenomena as best as I can and explain to them that the truth is the most efficient sales “tactic”.
    Hopefully we can get rid of that phenomena soon and continue providing people around the world these beautiful paintings.

  132. klaus says:

    “Art Lover”

    That is the biggest load of sh*t I have read all year, but I am glad you believe it :)

  133. Art Lover says:

    Klaus – It’s easy using words like sh*t. Way to go…

    just think about it. every thing u own cost to produce about 1/10 or 1/20 of the price u paid for it.
    everything u own was sold to u with a persuasion of some sort. what do u call “commercials”?
    u go out and buy products because someone told u with or without your consent why they are good for u…
    giant corporations make u pay a lot more than something is worth just because they can. whereas here u pay good money for something that is worth it.

    anyway, I guess that’s all just sh*t right?

  134. klaus says:

    Art Lover, thankyou for your life lesson, and we are glad you enjoyed reading the “israeli” art scam article.

  135. Student says:

    Art-lover, thank you for your reply. I was wondering if perhaps you would agree to a little interview about the art sales. Considering the opposition to them on this site, and others, I think your input would be really good to balance the article.
    I’m in Sydney if you would like to meet face to face, or we could do a telephone interview. If you don’t feel comfortable doing this then I could email you some questions?

  136. ed says:

    thanks for the article. i just did a search after being approached by the same style sales pitch at my front door

  137. John Walker says:

    Well done David Goldberg for putting jase in his place over his disgustingly racist reasoning and suggestion.

  138. Former door2door seller says:

    So…
    how does it really work’s u ask ? Simple:
    1. Legal company with Big boss that was in the past a seller himself
    2. Crew manager
    3. Agents
    4. Framer
    Paintings = oil painting from china that are handmade and cheap to import (same as any other thing u import from china)
    Cars/vans/portfolio folders and a smile…

    U get around 25-30 paintings in a folder and on each one u sell u need to pay back fixed price, let’s say 60$. Your profit is the difference from your sale price(130$ sale-60$=70$ profit for agent)
    the crew manager gets let’s say 25$ fixed from each painting sale and the boss left out with 35$ on every sale… so the agent will try to do his best and aim for the high price he can get.
    For me, I preferred to sell low price and a lot then do 1 big sale.
    I agree with “art lover” about the fact that ” truth is the most efficient sales “tactic” ” and same with “peter” :” If you told the truth on my doorstep and said that these paintings are chinese hand painted works and I’m a tourist or student which is raising money for a trip”
    It’s a product. U get a cheap “art gallery” to your house and can decide if it goes with your carpet&sofa color, same with frames and in the cost of 1 gallery painting u get 3 for your new “wanabe decorated” house.
    Yes, it’s not for a real fine art loving person but better and cheaper than the “ikea design art person)

    This business is old and from the 60’s all around the world.
    It is a scam just when its involved lies about the origins of the painting and who u are and its has bad reputation because people think that if they lie they will sell more. Certainly the boss/crew manager don’t care if u lie as long as u sell…

    Yes, I did lots of money. No, I didn’t say I’m an art student just that I sell cheap oil paintings and if they want they can look, don’t want don’t buy.
    Yes, u don’t just come and say that they cost 5$ same as u won’t hear it from any electric shop for sellphones\ipod\dvd’s\sport shoes and all the rest of that crap that we buy each day to feel better…

    For any more question’s feel happy to ask…

  139. kumeta says:

    for ArtLover – excellent sales pitch, you were able to convince me for a minute there.
    for Former door2door seller – excellent distinction, specially loved “Yes, u don’t just come and say that they cost 5$ same as u won’t hear it from any electric shop for sellphones\ipod\dvd’s\sport shoes and all the rest of that crap that we buy each day to feel better…”

    scam or not scam, you gotta look at the wider picture
    this all cry is just a derivative of the consumption culture.
    you are all consumers, that go and consume useless stuff because you’re dead bored from your miserable pointless life (they’re not REALLY pointless, you were just unfortunately educated to believe that all important in life is money and the stuff you can buy with it) … the biggest scam of all is making us all feel that “MONEY” is something real and precious, which is no more than illusion which is made to control fools… so in the end of the day if you won’t buy my dead sea cosmetic skin care moisturizer, and still resist buying some nice paintings at your door, you’ll still be spending s**tloads of money for a whole bunch of useless crap

    if you really want to make yourself feel better, maybe you should spend less time next to the computer and inside concrete structures looking for some articles that will verify that fact that you’re a fool, and instead go deep into the forest or go climb a mountain and breath the air and kiss the ground of Gaya and hug a tree and appreciate the fact that you’re alive and that everything around you is so alive and beautiful… (:

    hope I made my point clear…take good care you all
    I truely do mean it, despite being a salesman. (:
    sales people are not evil, they just inject themselves into this all consumption circle for a while to make a living, before they move on again…or maybe its only me.

  140. Bonnie says:

    They have hit the Dallas Texas area

  141. Clyde says:

    They have also hit the Ohio Area

  142. Nicolas says:

    Hi folk,

    I feel like sharing with everyone, hopefully you’ll feel all a bit better.

    First let’s say the most important: those guys are not only Israelis, they are backpackers from all around the world who don’t really know what they do. I’m French; I did it myself and am not proud of it. Although it’s the only job I found to pay my travels.

    I feel bad about the whole thing but in the same time, some of the buyers will never know and they were so happy to buy a real painting with a story behind it for 100 bucks, really happy. I truly hope they will never read those blogs so they can still enjoy those beautiful colors in their homes.

    In the same time I think I really earned this money, walking 8-10 hours in 30-35 degrees and forcing doors was really hard. I was so happy when I finally could stop this terrible job and have enough money to discover your beautiful country.

    The money you gave me guys, I gave it back to your economy. I had only 200 bucks on my bank account when I got back home but thanks to you I had thousand of beautiful landscapes in my head.

    Those young students do this door-to-door job as any other shitty job they could find to pay their travels. Before judging those poor young guys, check what motivates them to accept those sad jobs. Working for 3 or 5 bucks an hour in a restaurant does not pay. Have you ever checked that the pizza you have in your plate at the restaurant has not been prepared by a poor backpacker (yes for me 3$/hour is a poor salary). Hope you’ll do it next time.

    Yes those canvases are probably made in China. And what? You like one of the canvas? Good for you, buy it. Do you think you have paid more that what it was worth? Where would you have bought art? How much would you have paid?

    Next time you have one of those backpackers at your home, don’t yell at him. Tell him/her that lying about the origin of a product is not fair. Advise him to tell the truth about the product. If there is a canvas that you like, tell him you would love buying one for what is fair for you and help this young guy/girl to understand a bit of life.

    Hope I have not hurt anyone.

    Regards.

    Nicolas

  143. Jen says:

    Hi!

    Nicolas I just read your reply, as well as others. Personally, if the story isn’t true, it’s not a very responsible thing to do. I think the idea is a good one, to offer something for the students travelling to do and go around Australia at the same time.

    I personally enjoyed the visit and I really love the artwork, I didn’t think it was an original. People are so quick to get angry and judge… And the student was right, I never go to art galleries to buy artwork, so it was nice to have one visit.

    Life is all about perspective. I choose to be happy with my choice. :)

  144. San Diego says:

    They are in san diego California, USA

  145. Chris says:

    I had a french woman try to sell me these paintings in Greystanes only an hour ago. Same story as a lot of the comments here.

  146. These things made the life of us painting artists hard. We try to promote our artwork over the internet, and people are scared away from such art scams…. These things need to stop.

  147. Beckki says:

    I live in Golden Grove, SA and was visited 31/3/2011 at 8.30pm. He said he was from Israli man who said the paintings were from fellow Uni students. They were selling them for $200 – $450 depending on size and if I purchased 4 or more he would chuck on in for free and do a group discount. He was not all that pushy but just kept talking and talking not letting me get in a word, I can’t be rude to people I will tell you once I am not interested in your sale but I cannot slam the door in your face. I need to get tough, I stupidly gave him my home phone number but I am not interested. I have been scared that these people try to break into your home or bash you and feel silly for not telling him to take a hike.

    At least I have not parted with any money as I kinda had a feeling that it was all too good to be true.

  148. Idan says:

    hello from Israel. I totally agree with you. The agents have Israelis bosses that want to see a lot of money. Averge agent earn per month 7000 Shekels (2000$)- most of the money goes to the boss. I can tell you that most Israelis dislike this phenomenon because it’s scam. Please don’t think that we are bad people in Israel, it’s a handful of people just wan’t to cheat people around the world; in Israel they can’t. We don’t believe them at all, and they don’t operate here. if you can see a movie of this scam see this (part of this in Hebrew): http://yes.walla.co.il/?w=/7801/1544914

  149. Ck says:

    I like the arts, now I feel like a fool, just spent $700 on 2 large side anvases, two small side. He claimed these are his art work!:(………….

  150. lurde sneves says:

    i have just bought 3 pieces of art..i dont really care who the artist is where they were painted…for me the importante thing is that the people that walked in my home shared some beautiful paintings that i was able to try in my home before bying..thank you for visiting me!i love them:)

  151. jfs says:

    We have bought pictures 3 different years here in Utah. I am disappointed to find that they were not painted by Israeli Art students and that we could have negotiated a much better price. However I can honestly say that I am not sorry that I have them. They are original canvas oil paintings. I have seen the same painting more than once, however they are different in small ways because they are real oil, not copies. The paintings dress up our home nicely and are still fairly good prices considering the size of the painting. I have a couple that I purchased last year that are not yet framed. The business card for the framing guy for last year is no good. So I would actually be very interested in finding them here again in Utah (specifically Bluffdale – new homes) so that I can get some framed.

  152. Sarah says:

    These guys are now targeting the Central Coast in NSW..

    Who sells art that they say is worth $400 and then let’s you keep the “painting” and says it’s ok to put the money into their bank account the next day…??????
    You would have to get suspicious straight away.. well my daughter did and needless to say there will not be any funds transferred to this scammers account..
    The so called “original paintings” are mass produced in China and worth about $5 tops….
    Don’t be fooled…!!!!

  153. bogaboga says:

    it’s not “these guys”…. you didn’t got it yet?

    there are a LOT of crews and a LOT of companies and a LOT of guys all over the world, it’s not one traveling team

  154. waaahh says:

    Comments are still going on such a lame topic?!

    If you bought fakes from a door to door sales person you deserve it because you are moron. End of story.

    Job well done of the sales person I say. Try tricked your uneducated dumb ass.

  155. dude says:

    I’m from Australia. Just found out that any door to door salesperson who works for a legitimate company or organisation must have ID and offer a cooling off period on the purchase.

    I liked the painings and i don’t care that they aren’t unique. I didn’t buy any because i avoid supporting sweatshopw and i have no way of knowing the true story.

    I don’t have any malice towards the young man-he probably doesn’t know it’ss not a proper company.

  156. qnewera says:

    I’m from Australia. Just found out that any door to door salesperson who works for a legitimate company or organisation must have ID and offer a cooling off period on the purchase.

  157. Brendan says:

    Hi!

    I’m happy to say I bought three paintings from this service back in 2009. I love my paintings and am actually looking to buy more. Does anyone know a website or someone I can speak with directly?

    Thanks,
    Brendan

  158. Geoff says:

    The “Israeli Art Students” came to my door at 6:00 pm last night. I had never heard of this scam before but suspected it from the start.

    My wife and I bought a new home 2 years ago. It has lots of bare, open wall space and we have been shopping in earnest ever since for some non-print artwork. We especially like oils as we can hang them without glass in the frames. We have been checking out galleries – fancy and local amateurs, art shows, craft markets, etc. We’ve looked in our home town and everywhere we travel.

    In all that shopping I have often been blown away by the prices. In particular, retail art stores that are selling obvious reproductions which aren’t al that great for what I think are insane prices. Sure, nice frames, but is another repro of the same ocean waves by the rocks worth $4700? I had a very strong feeling in my gut the product I was looking at was likely done by some Chinese person for $20 and nicely framed in China for maybe another $25.

    I have also seen some very nice art – in Mexican stores done by local Mexican artists (who are right there in the store painting it). I’ve seen paintings done by one of these artists over a period of a couple days, then on the third day see it hanging on the gallery wall for US$3200 while the artist is sitting there cranking out the next one. Beautiful, original art. But seriously – a Mexican making about $3150 profit would be like a Canadian winning $50,000 in a lottery.

    So, back to my “Israeli Art Student” paintings. These people spent well over and hour and half in our home helping us view these in different areas of the home. They had about 50 paintings in total.

    Our friend, a real artist, happened to be here. He had a very close look and determined that the canvas and paint was of pretty good quality, and absolutely was hand done by humans. Some even using some rather distinct painting methods.

    We picked out 2 large (about 5′ X 3′) and 5 small {about 30″ X 20″) that look gorgeous in our home. Total final price was CAD$1500. One of the two big ones was not a repro apparently, and after shopping for two years we could easily identify most of the repros. That one, great looking, well made and at least somewhat unique painting itself is about half the price of the next best deal we’ve seen on a large painting in two years of shopping.

    So, we are delighted with our buy. It is a shame that these people feel they have to resort to the art student scam. I thought about this a bit, and maybe it’s our fault as consumers, because if they came to my house saying they had great deals on some great looking art made cheaply in China, I don’t think I would have been interested.

    The best thing from all this: I have proven that my suspicions are correct. The vast majority of retail art is a rip-off. Yes, there are some beautiful pieces of art done by talented and/or well known artists that are worth the 5000% markup over the price of the canvas and paint, but they are far and few between. And we wouldn’t be able to afford stuff like that.

    I got 7 nice paintings for the price of 2 nice prints in an art shop, and I’m happy.

    Now, I am just hoping an Israeli picture framing student comes to my door in the next few days!

    Geoff

  159. AREYAKIDDING? says:

    Geoff,

    are you kidding me?
    worst propoganda post i ever read there mate.

    pay for advertising why dontcha!@

  160. Michale Steele says:

    i luv being scammed by scammers, can geoff sell me some fake chinese knock offs and then keep all the money?

  161. Jen says:

    Just had one of them at my door in Saskatoon, SK, 7:15pm, something didn’t seem quite “right”…called the cops on the scammer!

  162. kezza says:

    well seems I just got scammed and bought 1 painting. couple of days later framer rings up and asks if he can come over and frame my canvas painting. I live a long way from any big shopping districts so I said yes as I did not know when I would be near any shops to get it done. I really would like to get my so called oil painting on the wall. he comes over and said he was a framer from Uruguay by trade and is now taking his trade around the world with him during his travels. I bought a frame and he also said that my painting has requirements to last a long time and his framing skills and the fact the painting is on good quality canvas it would last a long time, decades even. After negotiating the cost I handed over the cost $200 for frame $200 for painting. I am not an artist or a buyer of fine art, this is the first time i have ever bought art and really thought I have purchased something beautiful. the frame was done very quickly and looks great. even professional. He then asked me if I would like to see some more art and that he also had in his car some pieces that he thought I would like. I asked him where he got them from and he told me he bought them from the guys that sold me the first painting. he paid $50 for each. He also told me that guys made a point of telling him that I really liked a certain set of two paintings (french streets in black and white with red leaves on trees). He bought them in and showed them to me with a selection of frames. they looked fabulous and i told him I had no money. This guy gave me price and said he would be happy for me to set up future payment as i did not have that cash right now. he framed the pieces and went on his way giving me all his trust. I have now in possession two more paintings that I have not paid for and will pay for them because I do not go back on my word and promised to pay him on pay day. so yes I probably have been scammed and my husband is probably gonna be pissed but I really like the work or copies and love that someone would go to the trouble to come to me to help me put some nice pictures on my walls. I don’t have to carry the guilt around with me and no i can go to sleep at night feeling happy. I wish i hew more about art when they first came over but i did not. you can be assured that I will now learn more about art and hope that my next purchase is real piece of art and the money is going to a real artist after all. The only thing made a wee bit mad about these guys is that did not have phone on any of them that actually worked and they had the nerve to ask me if they could use my phone.

  163. John says:

    Hello, I think I may know exactly who the ringleader of this whole scam is. In fact I think I live with him. Can someone please call me who has bought some of thEse paintings on 0421809311

    Thanks, John

  164. Gemini says:

    Ive read most of these replies and the bottom line remains, if you lie about the product, then it is wrong. Nicholas hopes the people he scammed out of their hard-earned money wont come across these blogs, but at the same time tries to validate what he did with excuses. It boils down to what so many people has already said, if you tell the truth about the art work & i still want to buy it, then good, but dont lie to me in order to make a quick sale. Finding out the truth that i was tricked into buying the painting (the fact that i liked is irrelevant because i bought it under false pretences) just leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I dont earn mega bucks, hell knows i would also love to tour the world, but i cant afford it, yet you dont see me going around scamming people out of their money. Travelling is a luxury and a priviledge, NOT a necessity, therefore i have NO sympathy with these lying scamsters.

  165. Pisces says:

    I think I just had one of these people come along to my house at around 8.30pm in the Sydney area. I’ve had an experience with them before, but as a teenager answering the door there is no way that I could afford the paintings. (I could but would I?)
    He had a French accent and was good looking, he wasn’t pressing about the matter and in fact he was quite nice. He had the painting with the Eiffel Tower and the rock and the ocean.
    But for some reason I got a nice lesson out of it, there was one painting that he got me to look at and answer who was winning. The message in the end was “It all depends on how you look at it”.
    Sure we might have some hate towards these people, but sometimes it’s not so bad. Maybe just be more aware in the future?

  166. Noabsolutes says:

    I guess we just got scammed. We are in Orange County, California. We had an Israeli student come by Sunday at 5 pm and we bought his story hook line and sinker. Bought 2 large canvases and two small ones, and he threw in a small one we liked. I’ve never owned art work so they just looked nice and real. I decided to google if I have been scammed because his phone number or email or supposedly facebook account are non-existent when I tried to reach him about when the framer will be coming by. (He handed us a business cards with all this information and to share with friends and family if anyone is interested in purchasing his and his friends artwork). Each painting he showed us had a story behind it, whether it was from his background/upbringing, school work assignment, etc. He even said he’ll tell us which painting he didn’t personally do and which one was his friends. The spiel was they are collecting donations by selling their classroom art work for cost of the materials to open up a gallery in Laguna Beach. He even took pictures with us and the paintings we bought probably now to use to scam others!!!

    Thanks Kezza for additional information on what I should be expecting next. The framer is supposed to come by today to free stretch the painting and offer frames at 50% off and hanging assistance. Not sure if it’s fair to call the cops on the framer since he didn’t peddle me the paintings but he does have the number of all the scammers selling them on the street.

  167. Lisa says:

    I can’t believe it this Israelie guy has just come to my door now and I am in Pretoria South Africa!. I listened to his “talk” and told him I had to chat to my husband. I then thought I would just google the organization he said he represented ‘happy homes gallery’ and somehow got to your link. So glad I did. Love modern technology. Thanks for this site and will be telling him no thanks.

  168. Arj says:

    I young guy calling himself Pierre just knocked on my door here in Canberra and the paintings were similar to that on the link. Thank you for posting this warning.

  169. Lars says:

    Well they’re over here in Norway too.
    If anyone wants to talk to one, I have his number.
    His name is Guy + and apparently his cell number is +47 9329 1161

  170. saladax says:

    We have these guys visit us at home every year and every time I’ve wanted to buy something just to help them out. Tonight I bought a painting for $100. It was something that took my eye and I liked it. I already have many original paintings mostly abstract but all painted by well known Australian artists.
    During the exchange at my front door we spoke about mass produced art of this kind and the salesman (French backpacker – we spoke in French) He admitted he didn’t paint ALL of the paintings and I’m quite sure he didn’t paint any of it but as I live in a remote area and appreciated the effort made on his part, I did buy a very abstract oil painting and am happy to make this part of our home-life story.
    If I bought the same painting as a print I would have paid the same money for a cheaply framed print.
    My $100 dollar oil painting would have taken more than a day to complete due to the composition and additional layers so in my opinion it was not a hefty price to pay for an appealing piece of work that will look great on a spare wall. I think if we’re going to get philosophical on this scam we need to look more closely at the conditions of the Chinese who paint these things and take it from there because in terms of affordability they’re not expensive at all.

  171. someone says:

    Persoanlly, I just bought six of them and be honest, They are really nice and I do enjoying looking at them.

    scam or not, I dont really care. As long as I like it and I feel happy about it.
    That’s it.

    I am from Canberra, Australia. similar mass produced art pieces from Ikea or any Australian retail store cost tripple the price easily. so if i can get it for 120, why not.

    I was more concerned that if these people were selling the art for some other more serious deal. i.e rob my house afterwards and stuff, cos one of the guy asked to come in and offer advise on where to hang them and stuff….

  172. E.T. says:

    Apparently there’s one in Melbourne on +61481356406. Almost got drawn in by the romantic notion of possibly helping local artists befoe reading this- I’ll not waste the Myki fare to get to Fitzroy. It depresses me that there is so much ridiculous certification required to palletize fucking boxes or tend bar in this bloody country that the only option left to backpackers is to be exploited by arseholes into making them thousands of dollars. Fuck salespeople. Go to a local art college, find a student hard at work and commission her / him to paint you something in oils for $120- he or she’ll probably be glad of the cash!

  173. njean says:

    I have bought a shipload of these paintings/they are gorgeous!

    We are newly weds/bought a large, new home, a couple of years ago, and all new furniture. We were trying to pay off furniture, before filling the walls…

    Feel a bit mislead after reading this, …as I really like the guys & gal, who came around with them!!/they were super! The first group of them, were supposedly from Israel, but the second group, that I really became friends with, say they are from Germany… My next door neighbor saw my paintings, and she bought two/used their framer.

    What made me curious regarding this: yesterday I ran across the card of the framer for the first group, and it is the same framer the second group uses, though they say, he works for them exclusively! He was nice, but not so much as the artists were/claimed he is from Africa, and would be killed by extremists-if he returns there/I do believe him.

    The two guys from Germany are the nicest you would ever want to know… one says he is an interior designer, and seems to really know his stuff/I was in the decorating business, so I know. Each group of artists that comes by, says they are opening an art studio in the area, and there will be a grand opening, but that day never comes/have not decided to tell my husband about this. The German guys gave me a beautiful Monet-copy for $50.00 because my neighbor bought her paintings from them.

    I really hope they get their’ degrees and do not get arrested or anything like that/get an honest profession… I just wonder if they are really artists?

    There was one other thing that bothered me: the artist who sales the painting, signs it with a M A R K E R ??? I thought that was odd! Doesn’t an artist sign with paint, when he completes a painting? We did, when I took classes years ago ??

    In my case, I love the art I purchased, and do not know what I will say when I see the next set of ‘ARTISTS’? who come around. I have a feeling a new group will show up…

    …hope to keep my cool, but …I like the idea of going to a college, and also, I have been thinking about picking up a brush again myself.

    I do not believe I will buy again after what I read here.??? ~ When I decided to look for something tonight, I was really hoping to find “NOTHING” …but Such Is Life!

    I have some fabulous-looking-art on my walls/paid much more for the framing than for the paintings! ~ I hate thinking they may have come from China, but probably most everything in your home did! That is the sad thing/I try to buy American; guess I blew it, , but life goes on and hopefully WE LEARN!!! I am disappointed and enlightened.

    Happy we had this little conversation; the real sad part is wondering what I will say to them, if the same guys come here -?- Perhaps I will show them this article. I have all their-phone numbers!!!

  174. ML UNK says:

    I just had these people come to the house and I said I would buy two of them for $240 because I really liked them, I live in a rural town in NSW so didnt think would be scam or rip off, my husband said check it out, I now know and wondering what to do, according to http://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/sales-delivery/telemarketing-door-to-door-sales
    they didnt give me any paperwork, just a name and bank details to transfer him money, so apparenty I have the right to give them back and say no, how do they know if you dont pay, what would they do? I would rather give them back then pay that much for slave labour :( dissapointed because they are lovely and suit well but now I know the origin and mark up thats crazy to support that, hopefully they dont do anything crazy if we send them back. Apparently they arnt unique too, as what everyone has described the ones they were offered were the same as I was and these were years ago so they just mass produce them, so I am not supporting some poor artist in ‘Cambodia’ as they said and the profits aren’t going to them :(

  175. ML UNK says:

    I just had these people come to the house and I said I would buy two of them for $240 because I really liked them, I live in a rural town in NSW so didnt think would be scam or rip off, my husband said check it out, I now know and wondering what to do, according to http://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/sales-delivery/telemarketing-door-to-door-sales
    they didnt give me any paperwork, just a name and bank details to transfer him money, so apparenty I have the right to give them back and say no, how do they know if you dont pay, what would they do? I would rather give them back then pay that much for slave labour :( dissapointed because they are lovely and suit well but now I know the origin and mark up thats crazy to support that, hopefully they dont do anything crazy if we send them back. Apparently they arnt unique too, as what everyone has described the ones they were offered were the same as I was and these were years ago so they just mass produce them, so I am not supporting some poor artist in ‘Cambodia’ as they said and the profits aren’t going to them :(
    will be sending back i think!

  176. John says:

    If I called you over the telephone, would you provide me with your bank details?

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